fuse RENAULT SCENIC 2008 J84 / 2.G Engine And Peripherals - Starting Charging Workshop Manual

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ALP 1 The starter does not work
NOTESTest the condition of the battery (see 80A, Battery, Test 1 Battery check).
Test the condition of the power fuse (see TEST 2 Test of power fuse condition and
source of fault).
Check ET010 Starting conditions met (see 87B, Passenger compartment
connection unit, Fault finding - Interpretation of statuses).
Check that the engine is not jammed.
Check that the following terminals are correctly
tightened:
the battery,
the starter,
the engine earth,
the bodywork earth.
Are the terminals correctly tightened?
Retighten the terminals (see MR 370,
Mechanical, 80A, Battery, Battery:
Removal - Refitting).
Check that the following wires are in good condition:
the wire connecting the battery +, component code
107, to terminal B+ of the starter, component
code 163,
the wire connecting the battery - to the bodywork
earth,
the wire connecting the engine to the bodywork
earth.
Are the wires in good condition?
Repair the damaged wires and terminals. If
the connection is faulty and there is a repair
procedure (see Technical Note 6015A,
Electrical wiring repair, Wiring:
Precautions for repair), repair the wiring,
otherwise replace the wiring.
Try starting.
If the starter still does not turn, can a clicking noise be
heard when the starter is activated?
NO
YES
NO
YES
A
NO
B
YES
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ALP 1
CONTINUED 4
Check the request from component 104
using ET239 Ignition switch position
(see 87B Passenger compartment
connection unit, Fault finding -
Interpretation of statuses).
Is component 645 receiving the request?Is the CAN network OK?
Presence of effective + after ignition feed
Check the voltage on connection D at the
input of fuse for component 260 when
starting is requested.
Is there 12 V?Run fault finding on the CAN network
Continuity fault on connection DP between components 260
and 645. If the connection is faulty and there is a repair
procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring
repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring,
otherwise replace it.Replace component 645
Check the voltage on connection D of
component 104 when starting is requested.
Is there 12 V?Replace component 104
Continuity fault on connection D between components 104 and 260. If there is a repair
method (see Technical Note 6015A, Repairing electrical wiring, Wiring: Precautions for
repair) repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
D
YES
NOYES
NO
NOYES
NO
YES

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NOTESPerform this test only after running complete fault finding on the Engine compartment
connection unit using the diagnostic tool (see 87G, Engine compartment
connection unit).
Because the Engine compartment connection unit houses the CHARGING CIRCUIT
function (sub-function: alternator) and checks the alternator via a serial connection.
CHARGING
ALTERNATOR SUPPLY TESTTEST 1
POWER FUSE AND WIRING
TEST THE CONDITION OF THE POWER FUSE AND THE CAUSE OF ITS FAULT TEST 2
WIRING HARNESS CHECKTEST 3
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Fault finding – Tests

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TEST 1 Alternator supply test
NOTESTest the condition of the battery (see 80A, Battery, Test 1 Battery check).
Measure the voltage at the battery terminals with the engine warm and running at idle speed for 2 minutes and
with all consumers switched off.
Voltage value?
Replace the alternator (see MR 370, Mechanical, 16A, Starting -
Charging, Alternator: Removal - Refitting).
Visually inspect the consequences (battery, corrosion, etc.).
With the engine idling, connect a current clamp to the alternator B+ wire, connection code BPDA, with all
consumers switched off.
Current < 5 ACurrent between 5 A and 35
ACurrent > 35 A
Replace the alternator (see
MR 370, Mechanical, 16A,
Starting - Charging,
Alternator: Removal -
Refitting).Keep the engine speed at
3000 rpm and still with no
consumers switched on.Check that there are no
electrical components
consuming an abnormal
amount of current.
Disconnect the fuses one by
one.
Value of measured current?
(i 1)
< 16 V
≥ 16 V
A

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TEST 2 Test the condition of the power fuse and the cause of its fault
NOTESCheck that the engine is not blocked.
With the ignition off, measure the voltage between the negative battery terminal
and the power fuse output
Is the voltage greater than or equal to 10V?
The power fuse is correct The power fuse is faulty
With the battery disconnected, measure the resistance
between the negative battery terminal and the power fuse
output
Is the resistance
≥ 10 ΩΩ Ω Ω
?
Disconnect the alternator + terminal, then measure
the resistance between the negative battery terminal
and the power fuse outputPossible external causes:
use of a "starter charger", excessively long use of
starter (e.g.: activating the starter with the gear
engaged to move the vehicle) etc.
Is the resistance
≥ 10 Ω?
Replace the alternator (see MR 370, Mechanical, 16A, Starting - Charging,
Alternator: Removal - Refitting).
Check the wiring connecting the alternator and the
starter to the battery + terminal (see TEST 3 Wiring
check).
Is it in good condition?
YESNO
NOYES
D
NO
YES
CNO
A
YES
B

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TEST 2
CONTINUED
Replace the starter (see MR 370, Mechanical, 16A, Starting
- Charging, Starter: Removal - Refitting).
Repair the damaged wires and terminals.
If the connection is faulty and there is a repair
procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair),
repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
Replace the "power fuse" (see MR 370, Mechanical, 80A, Battery, Battery: Removal - Refitting).
A
NO
B
YES
CD