engine RENAULT SCENIC 2008 J84 / 2.G Automatic Transmission Siemens TA2000 Owner's Guide

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PR128
ENGINE/TURBINE SPEED DIFFERENCE
NOTESThere must be no present or stored faults.
Check gearbox oil grade and level.
If an oil change or top-up is necessary see the Draining-Filling-Levels section of the Workshop Repair Manual.
Check that the gearbox is not leaking oil.
Disconnect the battery.
Disconnect the modular connector, and check the cleanliness and condition of the connections.
Disconnect the computer. Check the cleanliness and condition of the connections.
Use the Universal bornier Elé. 1681 to check the insulation, continuity and the absence of interference
resistance on the following connections:
●Connection code 5DA between components 119 and 1017.
●Connection code 5DB between components 119 and 1017.
●Connection code 5BX between components 119 and 754.
●Connection code 5BA between components 119 and 754.
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
Measure the resistance of component 1017 between the following connections:
●Connection code 5DA.
●Connection code 5DB.
The value should be approximately 300 Ω ± 40 Ω at a temperature of approximately 20 ˚C.
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
If the resistance is not correct, either the sensor or the harness is damaged. Replace the faulty component.
Measure the resistance of component 754 between the following connections:
●Connection code 5BX.
●Connection code 5BA.
The value should be approximately 1 Ω ± 0.2 Ω at 20 ˚C.
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical
wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
If the value is not correct, the solenoid valve or the electric/hydraulic interface harness is damaged.
AFTER REPAIRRepeat the conformity check from the start.
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PR128
CONTINUED
Carry out a converter stall test.
Follow the procedure in the Converter stall test section of the Workshop Repair Manual.
See the Taking line pressure section of the Workshop Repair Manual.
Set up the pressure gauge for a line pressure reading.
Warm engine with gearbox oil temperature between 60 and 80 ˚C.
Take the line pressure readings under the following conditions:
–with the gear lever in P or N and engine speed at 2000 rpm the pressure should be between 2.6 and 3.2 bar.
–with the gear lever at R and engine speed at 2000 rpm, the pressure should be above 4 bar.
–with the gear lever in D and engine speed at 2000 rpm, the pressure in first gear should be greater than 7 bar.
If the values are not correct, there is a fault inside the gearbox.
If the fault is still present, contact the Techline.
AFTER REPAIRRepeat the conformity check from the start.

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PR138
REFERENCE PRESSURE
NOTESThere must be no present or stored faults.
The reference pressure is determined by the automatic transmission computer.
Check the pressure setting on the diagnostic tool:
–engine not running: pressure reading 21 bar.
–engine at idle speed (~ 700 rpm) and selector lever at D or R: pressure reading ~ 2.7 bar.
–engine speed ~ 1400 rpm and gear lever at D or R: pressure reading ~ 8.9 bar.
AFTER REPAIRRepeat the conformity check from the start.
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Fault finding – Dealing with command modes
PR146
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REFERENCE PRESSURE AND OIL
PRESSURE
NOTESThere must be no present or stored faults.
The reference pressure values are stored in the transmission computer memory and depend on how the vehicle
is used.
The oil pressure is regulated according to the reference pressure. The oil pressure values must always be close
to the reference pressure.
This parameter is the difference between parameter PR138 Reference pressure and parameter PR003 Oil
pressure.
–engine not running: reference pressure reading 21 bar.
oil pressure reading = 0 bar.
–engine at idle speed (~ 700 rpm) and selector lever at D or R: reference pressure reading ~ 2.7 bar.
oil pressure reading = ~ 2.6 bar.
–engine speed ~ 1400 rpm and selector lever at D or R: reference pressure reading ~ 8.9 bar.
oil pressure reading = ~ 8.7 bar.
AFTER REPAIRRepeat the conformity check from the start.
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COMMANDS AND CLEARING:
Before using these clearing commands, engine and vehicle speeds must be zero and the selector lever must be in
position P or N.
AC024 Sequential control of the actuators
This command activates sequence solenoid valves EVS1 to EVS6 simultaneously to check that they
operate correctly.
RZ004 Fault memory
This command clears present and stored faults from the automatic transmission computer.
RZ005 Self-adapting programs
This command enables the self-adapting programming to be cleared from the automatic transmission
computer, after reprogramming or after gearbox components have been replaced.
After running this command, carry out a road test with the vehicle before returning it to the customer.
This is because the automatic gearbox may malfunction during the time taken for the self-adapting
programs to reinstall.
RZ006 Converter lockup self-adapting program
This command clears the self-adapting programs associated with the converter.
After running this command, carry out a road test with the vehicle before returning it to the customer.
This is because, after the command, the automatic gearbox may malfunction during the time taken
for the self-adapting programs associated with the converter to reinstall.
RZ007 OBD memory
This command clears the computer's OBD memory.
AFTER REPAIRRepeat the conformity check from the start.

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AC024
ACTUATOR SEQUENTIAL CONTROL
NOTESCheck the 20A permanent computer feed fuse marked 15 in the Protection and
Switching Unit. Check the cleanliness and condition of the connections.
Check the 5A after-ignition computer feed fuse marked 5H in the Protection and
Switching Unit.
Replace the fuses if necessary.
Check the cleanliness and condition of the connections.
Engine speed zero and gear lever in position P or N.
If the solenoid valves are not activated, check:
–the gearbox oil level,
–the cleanness and condition of the computer connector and modular connector,
Check the insulation, continuity and absence of interference resistance on the following connections:
●Connection code 5AU between components 119 and 754.
●Connection code 5AV between components 119 and 754.
●Connection code 5AW between components 119 and 754.
●Connection code 5AX between components 119 and 754.
●Connection code 5AY between components 119 and 754.
●Connection code 5DL between components 119 and 754.
●Connection code 5DM between components 119 and 754.
●Connection code 5BA between components 119 and 754.
●Connection code 5AZ, between components 119 and 754.
●Connection code 5DD between components 119 and 1019.
●Connection code 5DN between components 119 and 1019.
If the fault is still present, contact the Techline.
AFTER REPAIRRepeat the conformity check from the start.
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Fault finding – Customer complaints23A
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Fault finding – Customer complaints
NOTESOnly refer to Customer complaints after carrying out a complete fault finding
procedure with the diagnostic tool and the conformity check.
NO DIALOGUE WITH THE COMPUTER ALP1
ENGINE STARTING FAULTSALP2
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION OPERATING FAULTS ALP3
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION MALFUNCTIONING ON
GEAR CHANGINGALP4
ERRATIC GEAR CHANGESALP5
REVERSING LIGHTS DO NOT WORK ALP6
OIL UNDER THE VEHICLEALP7
NO GEAR LEVER LOCK IN POSITION ALP8
GEAR LEVER JAMMED IN "PARK" POSITION (CANNOT
UNLOCK BY DEPRESSING THE BRAKE PEDAL)ALP9
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Fault finding – Fault Finding Chart
ALP1 No dialogue with the computer
NOTESNone.
Try the diagnostic tool on another vehicle.
Check:
–the connection between the diagnostic tool and the diagnostic socket (connection and cable in good condition),
–the power supply to the computer,
–the engine and passenger compartment fuses.
Check that the CLIP sensor is supplied by connections BP32, MAN and NAM of component 225, displayed when
both red indicator lights on the sensor illuminate.
Make sure that the CLIP sensor is connected to the computer's USB port.
Make sure the CLIP sensor is communicating properly with the vehicle's computers; this can be seen by the two
green diodes on the sensor lighting up.
Check the following connections on component 225:
●Connection code AP43 (+ after ignition feed).
●Connection code BP32 (+ battery).
●Connection code MAN (earth).
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A,
Electrical wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
No communication on line K
Check the continuity, insulation and absence of interference resistance on line K of the diagnostic socket.
Disconnect the automatic transmission computer connector to check the insulation, continuity and the absence
of interference resistance of the following connections:
●Connection code AP4 between components 119 and 1337.
●Connection code BP42 between components 119 and 1337.
●Connection code N between components 119 and 107.
●Connection code 3HK between components 119 and 225.
If the connection or connections are faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note 6015A,
Electrical wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.
If the fault is still present, contact the Techline.
AFTER REPAIRCarry out a road test followed by a complete check with the diagnostic tool.
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ALP2 Engine starting faults
NOTESOnly refer to Customer complaints after carrying out a complete fault finding
procedure with the diagnostic tool and the conformity check.
Make sure that the diagnostic tool report, gear lever positions and instrument panel all indicate the same gear
engaged.
Adjust the gear lever cable if it is faulty.
The engine will only start when the gear lever is in the P or N position.
Check the battery charge and the condition of the terminals (oxidation).
Check the multifunction switch mounting and that it is working.
Check the gear lever control cable and adjust if necessary (see MR 364 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic
transmission, Filling-Levels (for Mégane II) and MR 370 Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Draining-Filling (for Scénic II)).
Ensure that the ignition switch is working properly.
Check the power circuit of the starter relay and the starter.
Carry out fault finding on the injection system.
If the engine still doesn't start, contact the Techline.
AFTER REPAIRCarry out a road test followed by a complete check with the diagnostic tool.
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Start with the ALP1 cycle
ALP3 Automatic transmission operating faults
NOTESOnly refer to Customer complaints after carrying out a complete fault finding
procedure with the diagnostic tool and the conformity check.
If the engine races when shifting from 1/2 when cold (automatic transmission oil
temperature lower than 15˚C), replace the pressure modulating solenoid valve
(EVM).
Use the diagnostic tool to check the
consistency between the display and the gear
lever positions (ignition on and engine
stopped).Adjust the control settings following the instructions
provided (see MR 370, Mechanical, 23 A,
Automatic Transmission, Automatic
transmission control unit (for Mégane II and
Scénic II)).
Are they consistent?
Check the oil level and the condition of the oil
(colour, odour, etc.).Replace the automatic transmission (see MR 364,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Removal-Refitting (for Mégane II) and MR 370,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Removal-Refitting (for Scénic II)). Does the condition of the oil suggest there
is an internal fault in the automatic
transmission?
With the engine stopped, check the line
pressure information provided by the pressure
sensor (PR003 Oil pressure).Replace the pressure sensor (see MR 364,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Pressure sensor (for Mégane II) and MR 370,
Mechanical, 23A, Automatic transmission,
Pressure sensor (for Scénic II)). Is the value higher than 0.2 bar?
NO
YES
YES
NO
YES
NO
A
AFTER REPAIRCarry out a road test followed by a complete check with the diagnostic tool.
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