Ac system HONDA CR-V 1998 RD1-RD3 / 1.G Workshop Manual

ldle Control System
ldle Control System
I P0505 | The scan tool indicates Diagnostic T.ouble Code (DTCI PO5O5: ldlecontrol svstem mattunction.
NOTE: lf DTC P1508 is stored at the same time as DTC P0505, troubleshoot DTC P1508 first. then troubleshoot DTC p0505.
Possibls Cause
. IAC valve mechanical malfunction. Throttle body clogged port, improper adlustment. Intake manifold gasket leakaging. Intake air hose loose leakaging. Vacuum hose leakaging
a ECT sensor incorrect output. Throttle Position sensor incorrect output
Troubleshooting Flowchart
The MIL has been reDorted on.DTC P0505 is sto.ed.
Problem verificationi1. Start the engine. Hold theengine at 3,000 rpm with noload (in Park or neutral) untilthe radiator Ian comes on, thenlet it idle.2. With the scan tool, check thelollowing items.- Throttle position should beapprox. 10% with the throt-tle {ully closed.- Engine coolant temperature shorJld be 194 - 205'F(90 - 96"C).lf they are not within thespec., repair the faulty sen-sor circuit.3 Check the engine speed atidle with no-load conditions:headlights, blower fan. reardefogger, radiator lan, and airconditioner are not operaling,
Inte.mittent failure. syltem is OKat this time.ls it 750 {730)* i 50 rpm?
ls il 700 (680)' rpm or less?
{To page 11-151)(To page 1'l-151)
l:'99 - 00 models
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ldle Air Control llAC) Valve
The scan tool indicates Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Pl508: A probtem in the ldle Air Controt flAC) varvecircuit.
The IAC Valve changes the amount of air bypassing the throttle body in response to a current signal from the ECM/PCM inorder to maintain the proper idle speed.
37 model;
IAC VALVE 2P CONNECTOR {C132}
,f rcp'# IYEL/BI.(II2f-1-d)
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Wir€ side of female terminals
PCM CONNECTOR A I32PI
tacvIBLK/BLU)
From AIR To INTAKECLEANER MANIFOLD
Wire side of female terminals
The MIL has beon .eport€d on.OIC Pl508 is sto.ed.
Problem veiification:1. Do the PCM Reset Procedure.2. Start the engine, and warm itup to normal operating tem-perature.
Inte.mittent failure, systcm b OKat thi3 time. Check tor poo. con-nections or loose wircs at C132(lAC v.lvel and at the PCM.
ls DTC Pl508 indicated?
Check lor an open in the wir6{lGPl lins}:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the IAC valve 2Pconnector.3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).4. Measure voltage between bodyground and the IAC valve 2Pconnector term inal No.2.
Repair open in the wire trctwoontha IAC v!lv6 and the PGM-Flmain relly.
Chock for an opan o. short in thowi.e (lACv linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFFand reconnect the IAC valve2P connector.2. Disconnect the PCM conneclorA (32P).
3. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).4, Measure voltage betweenbody ground and PCM con-nector terminal A12.
{To page 1l-153)
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Air Conditioning Signal
This signals the EcM/PcM when there is a demand for cooling from the air conditioning system.
'97 modol:
Wire side of lemale terminals
PCM CONNECTOR C (31PI
ACS IBLU/RED)
PCM CONNECTOR A (:TIPI
(cont'd)
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Chock for a shorl in thc wiro(ACS linol:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the A/C pressure
switch 2Pconneclor.3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).,1. [Ieasu re voltage betweenPCM connector terminals C5
and A9.
Check for . .hon in the wire IAGSlinel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect PCM connector C(31P).
3. Check for continuity betweenbody ground and PCM con-nector torminal C5.
Reoaii short in tho wire b€twoenrh6 PCM (Csl and the A/C pres-
3urc 3witch.
- Subcdtrte a known{ood PCMand recheck. lf pr6actibed volt-age is now av{ilable, roplacethe origind PCM,- Soe the eir conditionor in3p€c-lion lsee soction 221.
Check tor an opon in the wite(ACC lino):1. TLrrn the ignition switch OFF.2. Roconnect the A/C pressure
switch 2P connector.3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
4. Momenta rily connect PCMconnector terminals A9 and417 with a iumper wire sev'eraltimes,
Wire side of female terminals
JUMPER WIRE
(To page 11-156)Wire side oI Iemale terminals
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Air Conditioning Signal (cont'dl
(From page 11-'155)
JUMPERWIRE
UNOER.HOOD FUSE/RELAYBOX 9P CONNECTOR tqt52)
123I
56I
ACC IBLK/RWire side ofACC IBLK/REDIWire side of femaletermrnats
A t32PlPCM CONNECTORS C t3rp)
Wire side ol lemale terminals
Ch6ck for an open in th€ wire(ACC linel:Momentarily connect the under-hood fuse/relay box 9P connectorterminal No.5 to body groundwith a jumper wire several times.
ls there a cl;cking noise fromthe 4!/C compressor clutch?
ls there a clicking noise fromthe 4!/C compressor clutch?See air condiiioner inspection{see section 221.
Repai. op6n in the wire betwoenthe PcM (A17) and tho A/Cclutch relay.
Check the A/C operation:1. Start the engine.2. Turn the blower switch ON.3. Turn the A"/C switch ON.
Check for an open in the wire(ACS line):Measure voltage between PCMconnector terminals Ag and C5.
Does the A,/C operate?
Air conditioning signal is OK.
Repair open in the wire betweenthe PCM lCSl and the A/C awitch.ls there less than 1.0 V?
- Subqtitute a known-good FCM.nd r€ch6ck. lt 3ymptom/indi-cation goes awav, replece theoriginal rcM.- Soe th€ eir conditioner in3pec-tion (s6€ aec.tion 22).
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Air Gonditioning Signal (cont'd)
JUMPERWIRE
UNDER-HOOD FUSE/RELAYBOX 9P CONNECTOR {G'52I
23a
5589
ACC (BLK/R
Wire side otACC (BLK/RED'
Wire side otfemaleterminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTORS
Wire sid€ of female torminals
(From page '11,157)
Check Ior dn opon in the wiroIACC linel:Momentarily connect the under-hood fuse/relay box 9P connectorterminal No. 5 to body groundwith a jumper wire several times.
ls there a clicking noise lromthe y'y'C compressor clutch?
ls there a clicking noise fromtho A,/C comprossor clutch?Sae rir conditional in3pactionlroa saction 221.
Repai. open in th6 wiro lr€twlanthe ECM/PCM lAl7l .nd tho A/Cclutch rolay.
Check tho op.ration of tho A/C:1. Stan the engine.2. Turn the blower switch ON.3. Turn the Ay'C switch ON.
ChGGk for an open in the wi.eIACS linel:Measure voltage betweon ECM/PCM connector terminals A27and 820.
Does the !y'C operate?
Air conditioning 3ignal i3 OK.
Rap.ir opon in the wir6 bdtunaanrh. Ecil/FcM lA27l rnd rh. A/crwitch.
ls voltage less than 1.0 V?
Sub6lftna a known{ood ECM/PCM and rechock. lf symp-tom/indicetion goes away.roplace the original ECM/rcM.See the ah conditionor inspoc-tion {3e€ section 22},
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Alternator (ALT) FR Signal (cont'dl
'98 - 00 modols:
ALT CONNECTOR (C1I}5I
4P
rH] Arr Fl'l'ltwHr/REo)l3laF1
I JUMPER WIRE JUMPER+ WIRE
ECM/PCM CONNECTORS
Wire side of female terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR C {31PI
Wire side of female terminals
Wire side of female terminals
ECM/PCM CONNECTOR C {31P}
": Canada
1 1-160
B (25P)
Insp€ction of ALT FR Signsl.
Check fo. a shon in th. wire {ALTF linel:1. Disconn6ct the 4P (3P)* con-nector from the ALT.2. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).3. Measure voltage between ECM/PCM connector terminals C5and 820.Ch€ck for a sho.t in iho wirc lAlTF lino):1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnecl the negative bat,tery cable from the battery.3. Disconnect ECM,PCM connec-torC (31P).
4. Check for continuity betwoenbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminal c5.
ls there approx. 5 V7
Check the opcration of the ALT:1. Turn the ignitioo switch OFF.2. Reconnect rhe ALT 4P (3P)*connector to the ALT.3. Start the engine. Hold theengine at 3,000 rpm with noload (in Park or neutral) untilthe radiator lan comes on,then let it idle.4. Measure voltage between ECM/PCM connector terminals C5and 820.
Roprir lhort in tho wirc bstweentho ECM/PCM {Csl and the ALT.
Substitut. r known-good ECM/PCM and roch.ck. It Droscrib.dvoltage b now lvrilabls, .eplaccth. o.igin!l ECM/PCM.
Does the voltage decrease whenheadlights and rear defogger areturned on?ALT FR 3ignol is OK,
Chock lor an opon in tha wire (ALTF linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the negative bat-tery cable from the battery.3. Disconnect ECM/PCM con-nector C (31P).4. Disconnect the 4P 13P)* con,nector from the ALT.5. Connect the ALT 4P {3P)* con-nector terminal No. 4 1No. 1)*to body ground with a jumper
6. Check for continuity betwe€nbody ground and ECM/PCMconnector terminal C5.
Rsprir opan wiro batw.en thoECM/PCM lcsl .nd th. ALT.ls there continuity?
AI.T F IWHT/REDI
ALT F {WHT/REDI
Wire side ot Iemale terminals
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Power Steering Pressure (PSP) Switch Signal
This signals the ECM/PCM when the power steering load is high.
'97 model:
*: Do not hold the steering wheel at tulllock for more than five seconds,
Wire side of female terminals
PSP SWTTCH 2P CONNECTOR 1C135)
PSP SW (GRN)
JUMPER T_7 1 \vnRE t--f r)
GND IBLK}
Wire 3id6 of female terminals
Inspection ot PSP switch signal.
Check for an open in the wire {PSPSYV line):1. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).2. Measure voltage betweenPCN4 connector terminals C16and A9.
Check tor an open in lhe wire (PSPSW linel:1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the PSP switch 2Pconnecror,3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).4. At the harness side, connectthe PSP switch 2P connectorterminals No. 1 and No. 2with a jumper wire.5, Measute voltage betweenPCM connector terminals C16and A9.
ls there less than 1.0 V?
- Ropsir open in the wi.e be-twoon the PCM lcl6l and thePSP switch.- Ropdir open in BLK wire be-tween the PSP switch andG101.
ls there less than 1.0 V?Check the operation oI lhe PSPswitch:1. Stan the engine2. Turn the steering wheelto thefull lock position*.
3. Measure voltage between PCMconnector terminals C16 andA9.
ls there battery voltage?
PSP switch signal is OK.(To page 11-163)
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Power Steering Pressure (PSP) Switch Signal (cont'dl
'98 - 00 models:
*: Do not hold the steering wheel at lulllock for more than five seconds.
ECM/FCM CONNECTORS
PSP SwlTCH 2P CONNECTOR ICl35}
PSP SW IGRNI
JUMpER f-7 T \wtRE L-5 rl
GND (3LX}
Wire side of lemale terminals
Inspection of PSP swilch 3ignal.
Ch€ck tor rn opon in the wire (PSP
SW line):1. Turn the ignition switch ON {ll).2. Measure voltage betlveen ECM/PCM connector terminals 426and 820.
Chock for an open in the wire IPSPSW lin€):1. Turn the ignition switch OFF.2. Disconnect the PSP switch 2Pconnector,3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).4. At the wire side. connect thePSP switch 2P connector terminals No. 1 and No.2 with a
5. Measure voltage between ECM/PCM connector terminals 426and 820.
ls there less than 1.0 V?
- Ropai. open in the wire be-tweon th6 ECM/PCM (A26)
and th6 PSP .witch.- R6p.ir open in BLK wire be-tween tho PSP 3witch andG 101,
lsthere less than 1.0 V?Check the op€ration of the PSPswitch:1. Stan the engine2. Turn steering wheel to the fulllock position*.3. Measure voltage b€tween ECM/PCM connector terminals A26and 820.
ls there battery voltage?
PSP switch signal is OK.
Wire side of female terminals
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(To page 11-165)
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Brake Switch Signal
This signals the ECM/PCM when the brake pedal is depressed.
('97 model)'- - - - -_- Il
PCM CONNECTORSa t32P) D ll6Pl
BKSW(GRN/WHT)
Wire side of female terminals
Insp€ction of Brak. Switch Signal.
Are the brake lights on withoutpressing the brake pedal?
Inspect the HORN, STOP {15 A)fuse in the undeFhood luse/ relaybox.Do the brake lights come on?
Reoair short in the wire be-tween th€ b.ake switch andth6 HoRN, STOP {15 A)luso,Replaco the HoRN, STOP (15
Al fuse.
Repair op6n in the wir€ be-tween the brake switch andtho HORN, STOP (15 Allus6.Inspect the brrke switch (see
aection l9l.
Check tol .n open in the wire{BXSW linel:1. Press the brake pedal.2. Measure voltage between rcMconnector terminais D5 and Agwith the brake pedal pressed.
Reprir open in the wire betweenthe PcM lD5l rnd the brakeswitch.
(To page 11-167)
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Fast ldle Thermo Valve lA/T)
Description
To prevent erratic running when the engine is warming
up, it is necessary to raise the idle speed. The fast idle
thermo valve is controlled by a thermowax plunger.
When the engine is cold, the engine coolant surround-
ing the thermowax contracts the plunger, allowing addi-
tional air to be bvDassed into the intake manifold so that
the engine idles faster. When the engine reaches operat-
ing temperature. the valve closes, reducing the amount
of air bypassing into the intake manifold.
IDLEADJUSTING
IDLETHERMOVALVE
AIR BYPASS VALVE
11-168
Inspgction
NOTE: The fast idle thermo valve is factory adjusted; it
should not be disassembled.
1. Remove the intake air duct from the throttle body.
2. Start the engine,
3. Put your finger over the lower port in throttle body,
and make sure that there is air flow with the engine
cold (engine coolant temperature below 86"F, 30'C).
lf there is no air flow, replace the fast idle thermo
valve and retest,
O-RINGSReplace.
11.0 kgfl.m, 7.2 lbl.ftl
Start the engine. Hold the engine at 3,000 rpm with no
load (in Park or neutral) until the radiator fan comes
on, then let it idle.
Check that the valve is completely closed. lf the valve
is leaking, the idle speed will drop when you cover the
lower pon. Check the engine coolant level and for air
in the engine cooling system {see section 10). lf the
cooling system is OK, replace the fast idle thermo
valve and recheck.
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