light RENAULT SCENIC 2009 J84 / 2.G Air Conditioning Climate Control Workshop Manual

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Fault finding – Introduction
1. SCOPE OF THIS DOCUMENT
This document presents the fault finding procedure applicable to all computers with the following specifications:
2. PREREQUISITES FOR FAULT FINDING
Documentation type:
Fault finding procedures (this manual):
–Assisted fault finding (integrated into the diagnostic tool), Dialogys.
Wiring Diagrams:
–Visu-Schéma (CD-ROM), paper version.
Type of diagnostic tools:
–CLIP
Type of special tooling required:
3. RECAP
Procedure
To run fault finding on the vehicle's computers, switch on the ignition in fault finding mode (forced + after ignition
feed).
Proceed as follows:
–Renault card in the card reader (keyless vehicle scenario 1, standard, not hands-free and scenario 2, top of
the range, hands-free),
–press and hold the Start button (longer than 5 seconds) with start-up conditions not fulfilled,
–then connect the diagnostic tool and perform the required operations.
To cut off + after ignition, proceed as follows:
–disconnect the diagnostic tool,
–press the Start button twice briefly (less than 3 seconds),
–check that the + after ignition feed has been cut off by checking that the computer warning lights on the
instrument panel have gone out. Vehicle: Scénic II
Function concerned: Climate controlComputer name: Careg
Program No.: 0003
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SPECIAL TOOLING REQUIRED
Multimeter
Elé. 1681 Universal bornier
Note:
The left-hand and right-hand xenon bulb computers are powered when the dipped headlights are lit. Fault finding
procedures can only be carried out on them after the ignition has been switched on in fault finding mode (+ after
ignition imposed) and the dipped headlights are on.
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Faults:
Faults are declared as either present or stored (depending on whether they appeared in a certain context and have
disappeared since, or whether they remain present but have not been diagnosed within the current context).
The present or stored status of faults should be taken into consideration when the diagnostic tool is used after the
+ after ignition feed has been supplied (without acting on the system components).
For a present fault, apply the procedure described in the Interpretation of faults section.
For a stored fault, note the faults displayed and apply the instructions in the Notes section.
If the fault is confirmed when the notes are applied, the fault is present. Deal with the fault.
If the fault is not confirmed, check:
–The electrical lines which correspond to the fault,
–The connectors on these lines (corrosion, bent pins, etc.),
–The resistance of the faulty component,
–The condition of the wiring (insulation melted or cut, chafing, etc.).
Conformity check
The aim of the conformity check is to check statuses and parameters that do not produce a fault display on the
diagnostic tool when they are inconsistent. Therefore, this stage is used to:
–carry out fault finding on faults that do not have a fault display, and which may correspond to a customer complaint,
–check that the system is operating correctly and that there is no risk of a fault recurring after repairs.
This section gives the fault finding procedures for statuses and parameters and the conditions for checking them.
If a status is not behaving normally or a parameter is outside the permitted tolerance values, consult the
corresponding fault finding page.
Notes about the conformity check for the air conditioning system
All variables (statuses and parameters) and commands required for the air conditioning function are divided into four
sub-functions:
–the COLD LOOP sub-function, which groups together all the information required for producing cold air,
–the USER SELECTION sub-function, which groups together all the information relating to the user's requests
(buttons pressed, warning lights, etc.),
–the HEATING sub-function, which groups together all the information required for producing warm air,
–the PASSENGER COMPARTMENT VENTILATION sub-function, which groups together all the information
relating to ventilation, distribution and air distribution within the passenger compartment.
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CLIMATE CONTROL
Fault finding – System operation
GENERAL INFORMATION:
The climate control system fitted on the SCENIC is controlled by four computers. This system is called a
DISTRIBUTED FUNCTION. Fault finding on the climate control is performed in two different ways using the
diagnostic tool. The first method consists of performing fault finding on each computer which allows
communications to be established with just one computer (select the climate control computer). The second
procedure consists of performing fault finding on each function which allows communications to be established
with all four computers of the AIR CONDITIONING function. These two fault finding methods are described in the
introduction of this repair manual.
DESCRIPTION OF THE OPERA
TION OF THE CLIMATE CONTROL COMPUTER:
The climate control computer controls the passenger compartment ventilation, the distribution motor, the mixing
motor and the recirculation motor.
The climate control computer also controls two sensors, these being the interior temperature sensor and the solar
radiation sensor.
The two sensors and the three motors are connected to the climate control computer by wire connections. The
climate control computer controls the passenger compartment ventilation using a modulated control signal (square
signal) sent to a power module (wire connection).
All other signals used by the climate control computer or transmitted by this computer to other computers are sent on
the multiplex network.
Cold air production (cold loop) and warm air production (heating) are controlled by the other three computers
involved in the Air conditioning function (UCH, protection and switching unit and injection computer).
The main signals used by the climate control computer are:
–+ 12 V sidelights,
–0 V rheostat controlled,
–exterior temperature,
–engine coolant temperature,
–engine operating status,
–engine speed,
–electrical power consumed,
–request to set the blown air temperature.
OPERA
TING NOTES:
–When the engine is switched off, the passenger compartment blower unit operates approximately 30% slower than
the requested speed (control panel setting).
–If any of the actuators are faulty, the air conditioning can no longer control them, but the setting requests are still
displayed on the control panel: warning lights light up, display of symbols on the control panel (distribution motor
position, passenger compartment blower speed, AC symbol, etc.).
–If the exterior temperature sensor is faulty, the climate control computer is switched on 5 seconds after the
ignition is switched on (this allows a fault to be identified as fault finding cannot be performed on the exterior
temperature sensor by the UCH).
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SUMMARY OF ITEMS CONTROLLED OR OPERATED BY THE CLIMATE CONTROL COMPUTER:
Ventilation and air conditioning unit
Passenger
compartment
blower
Vehicle multiplex
network
Passenger
compartment
blower power
moduleRecirculatio
n motorDistribution
motorMixing
motorInternal
temperature
sensor Solar sensor
Actuator control Sensor management
Climate control computer (control panel)
Climate control
management
(hot and cold)User requests
management
(buttons pressed) Button lighting
Key:
Wire connections =
Multiplex connections =
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Fault finding – Allocation of computer tracks
Allocation of climate control computer tracks.
Computer
tracksFunctions Sensor - actuator tracks
Connector A
1CAN L
2not used
3not used
4solar sensor signal track 2 of the solar sensor
5interior temperature sensor signal track 4 of the interior temperature sensor
6computer earth
7CAN H
8not used
9+ 12 V side lightsleft-hand side light fuse in the Protection and Switching
Unit (7.5 A)
10 + 12 V accessories feed passenger compartment fuse (15 A)
11 + 12 V before ignition feed passenger compartment fuse (20 A)
12 0 V sensors (solar, interior temperature)track 1 of the solar sensor and track 5 of the interior
temperature sensor
Connector B
1recirculation motor control track 5 of the recirculation motor
2not used
3not used
4not used
5not used
6not used
7passenger compartment blower module
controltrack 6 of the passenger compartment blower module
6-track connector
812 V supply of the mixing and distribution
motorstrack 2 of the mixing and distribution motors
9not used
10 recirculation motor control track 6 of the recirculation motor
11 distribution motor control track 1 of the distribution motor (coil B2)
12 distribution motor control track 6 of the distribution motor (coil A2)
13 distribution motor control track 3 of the distribution motor (coil B1)
14 distribution motor control track 4 of the distribution motor (coil A1)
15 mixing motor controltrack 1 of the mixing motor for B and C84 and track 3
of the mixing motor for J84 (B2 winding)
16 mixing motor control track 6 of the mixing motor (A2 winding)
17 mixing motor controltrack 3 of the mixing motor for B and C84 and track 1
of the mixing motor for J84 (B1 winding)
18 mixing motor control track 4 of the mixing motor (A1 winding)
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COLD LOOP SUB-FUNCTION
NOTESOnly carry out this conformity check after a full check with the diagnostic tool (fault
reading and configuration checks).
Test conditions: engine off, ignition on (forced 12 V After ignition).
Air conditioning off (air conditioning compressor not triggered).
Special note:
The various conformity checks
for the air conditioning function are explained in the
Introduction section.
Order FunctionParameter or Status
checked or Action Display and Notes Fault finding
1Request to
engage the
compressorET143:Air conditioning
request 1ACTIVE for air
conditioning request
(AC button pressed or
AUTO button pressed
with maximum cold
request).
INACTIVE the
opposite.If there is a fault, refer to the
fault finding procedure
for this status.
Note: This status
represents the request from
the climate control
computer to the UCH to
switch on the compressor
(refer to the flowchart in the
system operation section).
2TemperaturePR001:Interior
temperatureX = interior
temperature ± 5 ˚C
(invalid value: 87.5 ˚C)If there is a fault, refer to the
fault finding procedure
for this parameter.
3Passenger
compartment
blowerET141:Passenger
compartment
blowerRUNNING
or
STORED
depending on user
requestIf there is a fault, refer to the
fault finding procedure
for this status.
4Air flapPR012:Mixing flap
position0% = Max cold
position (15 ˚C)
100% = Max hot
position (27 ˚C)If there is a fault, refer to the
fault finding procedure
for this parameter.
5Solar radiationPR006:Solar radiationfrom 0 W (no sunlight)
to 400 W (maximum
sunlight).
(invalid value: 765 W)If there is a fault, refer to the
fault finding procedure
for this parameter.
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MAIN SCREEN
NOTESOnly carry out this conformity check after a full check with the diagnostic tool (fault
reading and configuration checks).
Test conditions: engine off, ignition on (forced 12 V After ignition).
Air conditioning off (air conditioning compressor not triggered).
Special note:
The various conformity checks for the air conditioning function are explained in the
Introduction section.
Note:
This page lists the statuses and parameters provided by the climate control computer
but which are not associated with the four sub-functions given in the conformity check
(PASSENGER COMPARTMENT VENTILATION, COLD LOOP, USER SELECTION
and HEATING sub-functions).
Order FunctionParameter or Status
checked or Action Display and Notes Fault finding
1Electrical
suppliesPR092:Battery voltage10.5 < X < 14.4 VIn the event of a fault, see
the interpretation of this
parameter
ET007:+ after ignition
computer feedABSENT: Ignition off.
PRESENT: Ignition on.In the event of a fault, refer
to the interpretation of
this status.
ET002:+ 12 V side
lightsABSENT: Side lights
off.
PRESENT: Side lights
on.In the event of a fault,
consult the interpretation
of this status (see 87B,
Passenger compartment
connection unit).
PR122:Night-time
lighting level6% = minimum lighting
level.
99% = maximum
lighting level.
(side lights off: 102%)In the event of a fault, refer
to the interpretation of
parameter PR111 Lighting
dimmer voltage (see 83A,
Instrument panel).
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CLIMATE CONTROL
Fault finding – Customer complaints
NOTESSpecial notes:
A general summary of all air conditioning fault finding charts can be found in
Section 62A. The customer complaints listed below only relate to the actuators
controlled by the air conditioning control panel. For cold air and warm air production
faults, refer to Section 62A.
DIALOGUE FAULT
NO DIALOGUE WITH THE COMPUTER ALP 1
AIR DISTRIBUTION PROBLEM
AIR DISTRIBUTION PROBLEM ALP 2
AIR FLOW FAULT ALP 3
INEFFICIENT WINDSCREEN DEMISTING ALP 4
NO PASSENGER COMPARTMENT VENTILATION ALP 5
PASSENGER COMPARTMENT
ODOURS
UNPLEASANT ODOURS IN PASSENGER COMPARTMENT ALP 11
WATER IN PASSENGER COMPARTMENT
WATER IS PRESENT IN PASSENGER COMPARTMENT ALP 12
CONTROL PANEL FAULT
NO CONTROL PANEL LIGHTING ALP 13
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ALP 2
CONTINUED
With the distribution motor removed, operate the distribution
flaps manually by turning the centre of the control from one limit
to the other (the limits are V shaped).
Does the flap cover the whole range of movement, without
any areas of resistance?
YES
Remove the footwell vent ducts (lower ducts) to check that the
lower flap control linkages are present and correctly fitted (they
are connected to the upper flaps). Also ensure that lower flaps
move when the distribution flap manual control is operated.
Do the footwell (lower) distribution flaps move when the
distribution flaps are controlled?
YES
If the fault is still present with the distribution motor dismantled
and connected, carry out a motor command using the distribution
buttons on the control panel: switch the distribution flap to
demisting position (value 100%) then switch the distribution
setting to air vent position (value 0%).
Is the distribution motor operating?
YES
Remove the dashboard and visually check that when the
distribution flaps are moved manually (by turning the centre of the
control), moving the control does in fact move the distribution
flaps.
Is there movement?
YES
End of fault finding procedure.
NO
NO
NO
NORemove the dashboard to check
that nothing is preventing the
flaps from moving. Repair
(remove any foreign bodies
which may be blocking the flaps
and grease the centre of the flap
control mechanism). Replace
the distribution - ventilation unit if
it is not possible to repair it.
If the mountings of the lower flap
control linkages are not
damaged: resecure the linkages
and grease them slightly. If a
repair is not possible or if the
mountings are damaged:
replace the distribution -
ventilation unit.
Apply the fault finding procedure
for fault DF012 Distribution
motor circuit.
Replace the distribution -
ventilation unit.
AFTER REPAIRPerform a complete check using the diagnostic tool.
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ALP 5 No passenger compartment ventilation
NOTESOnly consult this customer complaint after a complete check using the
diagnostic tool.
Special notes:
The 2 x 5-track intermediate connector is located on the LH side of the distribution /
ventilation unit (behind a plastic cover) and the passenger compartment fan control
module is located slightly higher up, below the heater matrix pipes.
Check that the fusesare in good condition.
Using the diagnostic tool, check that the passenger compartment fan
control setting given by the computer varies from 0 to 100% by checking
parameter PR019 Passenger compartment fan PWM setpoint
(refer to the interpretation of this status).
Does the value vary?
YES
Check that the control voltage (PWM) (modulated control voltage) of the passenger
compartment fan power module varies between 5 and 12 V (from 0 to 100%) by
measuring between track 6 of the module's 6-track connector and earth
(connector connected).
Note:
The check procedure is given in the Help section.
Does the voltage vary correctly?
NO
Check the insulation, continuity and absence of interference resistance on the
following connection:
Air conditioning computer 18-track
connector
track 7
Repair if necessary.Power module 6-track connectortrack 6
With the ignition on, check for +12 V accessories feed on track B1 and an earth on track B5
of the black 2 x 5 track intermediate connector (screwed to the base of the console).
Repair if necessary.
NO
YES Contact your
TECHLINE.
AFTER REPAIRPerform a complete check using the diagnostic tool.
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